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DK Tentacle
October 16th, 2010, 12:28
For some reason keeperfx has worse graphics than dkgold, is there any way to change this?
Also despite being worse graphics it is slower :confused:
and the music wont work, also on normal keeper(it only has 1 option for midi driver and it is unable to detect it, i use windows xp home) is there any way to get around this?
i heard the music on youtube, that's the first time i found out that there actually was music.

Mothrayas
October 16th, 2010, 13:00
DK1 and KeeperFX detect music from the CD drive and play that. And I don't think KeeperFX supports the Direct 3D versions that DK Gold has, so yeah, KeeperFX's graphics are not as good as those.

DragonsLover
October 16th, 2010, 18:32
If KeeperFX seems to have worse graphics than the normal DK, perhaps you're not playing the game in the correct screen resolution.

Be sure to alter the KeeperFX.cfg file as explained in the Readme. You must be sure that you have these values inside the config file :

FRONTEND_RES=640x480x8 640x480x8 640x480x8
INGAME_RES=640x480x8

For the music, you must have the DK CD. You must ensure that the CD is inserted into the FIRST CD drive (generally it is drive D:\). If you can't, either change the letter of the drives or temporarily disable some of them. You can also use Daemon Tools if you like, if you have a CD image file.

Philipp
October 17th, 2010, 15:54
Is it normal, that there is black space below the left menu when using 640x480x8?

I tested it on 2 computers already. 640x400 works fine though.

DragonsLover
October 17th, 2010, 16:44
Yes, it's normal. But if 600x400 works fine, then that's better! However, if the graphics are worse, then it's NOT 640x400, but 320x200.

DK Tentacle
October 17th, 2010, 18:12
how do you change the resolution? there's no option in game i think...

Duke Ragereaver
October 17th, 2010, 18:15
Yes you can, using ALT-R. Be warned, some of these resolutions are experimental and may be thus unstable.

DK Tentacle
October 17th, 2010, 18:24
i use alt-r and nothing happens, if i edit the values in the keeperfx.cfg will it change things in game, then i could get a resolution for my screen 800x600 works, but 640x480 does not

Krizzie
October 17th, 2010, 18:41
Delete the 320x200 resolution from the text file. leave only 640x480 in there. Ones ingame pres ALT+R and the game will change to 640x480. If you leave 320x200 in there it somehow keeps going back to that.

DK Tentacle
October 17th, 2010, 19:46
thanks everyone, it works now, for some reason alt-r didn't work, i now have it permanently on 1024. thanks! :)

DK Tentacle
October 17th, 2010, 19:47
but any ideas on getting music to work?

Mothrayas
October 17th, 2010, 19:55
As I said before, DK1 and FX read music from what's in the CD drive. Insert a Dungeon Keeper 1 disc in your PC's CD drive for DK1's music, or insert a music CD to play music from that instead.

If you use a music CD, track 2 will be played on the overworld map and tracks 3-6 in game. Track 3 plays on map numbers 1, 5, 9, 13, etc., track 4 on 2, 6, 10, 14 etc., track 5 on 3, 7, 11, 15 etc. and track 6 on 4, 8, 12, 16 etc.

PS: don't double post.

DK Tentacle
October 21st, 2010, 19:17
yer, that's not what i meant.
i mean it actually doesn't work.
it needs a midi driver, which i don't have

dragonfist
October 22nd, 2010, 02:49
It is very easy to get the music to work.
Just download the original music, and play it in a media player, while playing Dungeon Keeper(FX).

I myself use that trick, to listen to radio programs, while playing. But you can download the original Dungeon Keeper Music, by extracting the files from CD, or from some download that has them. I would extract one of the songs in 2009, with the help of one of the fan made software programs from France. I'll have a look on whether I can find that program...
Just a minute...

DKTools
http://keeper.lubie.org/html/dk1_tools_other.php
That download is down now.

This french pack of utilities integrates many useful files.

It contains viewer for maps, RNC decompressor with nice GUI, a tool to change all text shown by the game and to switch sounds. Additionally, there is a tool to access any level from the original DK campaign, and to adjust game settings.

And even more!As I said, I was able to extract one of the songs with that software, but you will have to find another place to get that package. Maybe it is uploaded some where else, or some one on this forum can create a place to download it again. There is a banner at dungeon-keeper.net to this forum, the software package might be on this forum some where. In any case, I would be interested in a normal mp3 download also. I don't find this package on my current disk, my previous computer broke down, and if you can't find the software package, I know of no place to download the original music.

DragonsLover
October 23rd, 2010, 17:03
Oh god... Dungeon Keeper DOESN'T NEED a Midi driver to get music as there's NO MIDI music in the game (excepted for the AWE32 SFX). The music comes from the CD-Rom of the game.

I will repeat it again, PLEASE FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS :

To get music during the game, you must insert the CD-Rom of the game into your FIRST CD-Rom drive (starting with drive D:\), then launch KeeperFX. If you can't (for example, you wanna use the E:\ drive), you'll have to either disable one of your CD-Rom drives through the Material control panel or change the letters of your drives through Computer Management panel. You can also use Daemon Tools if you have a CD Image instead. If the CD is inserted into the first drive and you still don't get music, check that it is turned on in your Sound Control panel and check the volume. Normally, you should get music during the game. A quick way to know if the music is working, go in the Options screen from the main menu, you should hear music there.

As for DKTools, it doesn't extract the music.


In any case, I would be interested in a normal mp3 download also.

Oh, you're looking for the Mp3's? This way! (http://gamemusic.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/dungeon-keeper/)

DK Tentacle
October 23rd, 2010, 18:14
aha, small problem, my dkgold cd has no music files on it, and it won't let me put mp3 files on it because it's read only

Mothrayas
October 23rd, 2010, 18:20
Actually, I'm pretty sure there are music files on there, they're just stuck inside larger data files or something. If you've done all of DragonsLover's steps, the music should play. Otherwise, try inserting any music CD and see if that works.

dragonfist
October 23rd, 2010, 21:23
Well, I'm playing the music now, while browsing around this forum.:rolleyes:
Thanks again Dragonslover!
I would also like to now, whether you know another place, where DKTools is found, because the link at keeper.lubie is down.
http://dungeon-keeper.net/dktools/
Down.

For unpacking rar, here is some freeware you can use to unpack the files;
7-Zip
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sevenzip/
or
http://www.freebielist.com/ziputilities.htm

unzipthemall..its free and works
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/unzipall.html

http://www.7-zip.org/

Mothrayas
October 23rd, 2010, 21:30
Well, I'm playing the music now, while browsing around this forum.:rolleyes:
Thanks again Dragonslover!
I would also like to now, whether you know another place, where DKTools is found, because the link at keeper.lubie is down.
http://dungeon-keeper.net/dktools/
Down.
http://dungeon-keeper.net/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=49&func=select&id=28

These are probably French versions, though. Use a dictionary if necessary.




For unpacking rar, here is some freeware you can use to unpack the files;
7-Zip
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sevenzip/
or
http://www.freebielist.com/ziputilities.htm

unzipthemall..its free and works
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/unzipall.html

http://www.7-zip.org/

What's the point of this, besides this being plain advertising?

DragonsLover
October 24th, 2010, 18:52
The reason why there's no music files is because they're CD Audio Tracks (try inserting the CD into a normal CD player and start playing track 2 (the first track is reserved for data)). If you want to extract them, use a software that burns CD and look for .CDA files. Extract them to .WAV or .MP3 if you want. But normally, if you have these .CDA files, you don't have to extract them. Just follow my instructions in my previous post and you will get music.

If your CD really doesn't have CD Audio Tracks, then you can do the exact same thing I did myself:
- Download all the .MP3s from the site I indicated in my previous post.
- Create a blank sound file. You can do this easily by clicking record in a sound recorder software while there's no microphone in so that the sound will be silent.
- By using a CD burner sofware, ask to create an audio CD image file, place the blank sound file as first track and add the .MP3 files afterwards in the correct order (very important).
- Create the image CD file.
- Use Daemon Tools Lite to mount the CD Image and ensure that the emulated CD drive is the FIRST one (has the letter D:\). You can temporarily disable the other CD drives if you wish.
- Run KeeperFX and presto : you have music during the game!

For DKTools, it is HERE (http://dungeon-keeper.net/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=79&func=select&id=28). But it won't help in any ways for the music.

DK Tentacle
October 25th, 2010, 11:55
By using a CD burner sofware, ask to create an audio CD image file, place the blank sound file as first track and add the .MP3 files afterwards in the correct order (very important).

Any CD burner suggestions?

Duke Ragereaver
October 27th, 2010, 21:56
*Sigh*

Off-topic and double-posts removed. Please use the ''Report Post'' button next time, because it makes you little better than the actual offenders; this does apply to you aswel MGR.

DragonsLover
October 29th, 2010, 03:32
Any CD burner suggestions?

Google (http://www.google.com) is your friend.

The one I'm using is "Roxio Easy CD & DVD Burning", but it isn't free.

And please don't ask how to burn CDs or create CD images. It shouldn't be hard.

iggii
February 17th, 2011, 11:15
Hi there,
is anyone working on graphics improvements, or is it being not priority at the time? Anyone looked closely on the possibility to include 3D patch from gold version or where it was released (dont really remember) to KeeperFX?

mefistotelis
February 19th, 2011, 08:51
KeeperFX is not aimed to use 3D acceleration. My idea is to leave it as software rendered.

DragonsLover
February 20th, 2011, 23:04
And now, about music, do you plan to be able to use Mp3 files instead of CD audio tracks? Is it hard to implement?

mefistotelis
February 21st, 2011, 06:32
And now, about music, do you plan to be able to use Mp3 files instead of CD audio tracks? Is it hard to implement?

Yes, I want to use some compressed format, probably MP3. Problem is - the sound routines are not completely rewritten yet. Also, I have to change SMK playing library before I can go to sound.

jomalin
February 21st, 2011, 07:45
Yes, I want to use some compressed format, probably MP3. Problem is - the sound routines are not completely rewritten yet. Also, I have to change SMK playing library before I can go to sound.

Please, give also WAV support for audio tracks, MP3 is a lossy compression sound format so the music will not sound exactly as the original, or FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec), this is FREE and IS LOSSLESS (compression without losing data), so with that we will preserve the original quality