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Duke Ragereaver
February 21st, 2011, 17:20
Will the Tunesia domino fall there next?

Airandius
February 21st, 2011, 17:50
The what in the when in the who?

Metal Gear Rex
February 21st, 2011, 17:53
The what in the when in the who?

The Chinese are invading Rome. They got a clone army.

Airandius
February 21st, 2011, 17:55
The Chinese are invading Rome. They got a clone army.

Ah I knew something like that would happen. I don't really follow the news that much though.
Any reasons why they would invade Rome and not America or something?

Metal Gear Rex
February 21st, 2011, 18:03
Ah I knew something like that would happen. I don't really follow the news that much though.
Any reasons why they would invade Rome and not America or something?

Cause we got the biggest most secret weapon of all. Screw all those other countries and their god damn nukes. We got Dinosaurs.

On-Topic: I don't know if it is because I'm tired atm, or I'm getting too old and my memory is getting bad, but what's with the Tunesia again? Surely I read something about it but I can't remember what it was. Though I might be thinking of something else that I read and am confusing it with this. Or I did read about this but didn't quite catch the name and because of that, I am unfamiliar with the name and therefore have no idea of what you're talking about when I do but I just don't realize the name of the subject we speak of. If that makes any sense. (doubt it)

Duke Ragereaver
February 21st, 2011, 18:34
On-Topic: I don't know if it is because I'm tired atm, or I'm getting too old and my memory is getting bad, but what's with the Tunesia again? Surely I read something about it but I can't remember what it was. Though I might be thinking of something else that I read and am confusing it with this. Or I did read about this but didn't quite catch the name and because of that, I am unfamiliar with the name and therefore have no idea of what you're talking about when I do but I just don't realize the name of the subject we speak of. If that makes any sense. (doubt it)

Well, to cut a long story...

A street vender in Tunesia set himself on fire in protest after his wares were confiscated followed with the humilliating harrasement by corrupt officals. That was the catalyst for a nationwide demonstration/revolution that caused the ousting of the president, after a month of deadly demonstrations, who was over 20 years in power. The protests did not end there, however, and it sparked over to other Arab nations due the similair circumstances... so-called the ''Tunesia Effect''.

Next in the line was Egypt ruled by President Hosni Mubarak (over 30 years in power) who gave up the presidentship about a week ago after 3 long weeks of protests. Although there were many more deaths (over 300 I think) the overall situation was pretty civilised compared to the other Arab nations (excluding Tunesia).

Libya is pretty much in the spotlights now, and it's certainly is not a laughing matter. Unlike the situations in Libya's neighbours, Tunesia and Egypt, the milltary and police mostly sided with Muammar al-Gaddafi (over 40 years in power) and are very quick to pull the triggers from their weapons and shoot at protesters (although I've heard some units have begun to muniteer to protect and to join up with the protesters). Many high ranking Libyan officials resigned in protest to the violence and I've heard the big boss himself has fled to Venezuela; Civil war may be a possibility.

Read the full article here regarding the Arab World protests (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%932011_Middle_East_and_North_Africa_pro tests)

A New Room
February 21st, 2011, 18:42
Will the Tunesia domino fall here next?

Edit: well that was embarrassing of me :o

Well I think it is quite possible, given the track record dictatorship and never partially stable.

Duke Ragereaver
February 21st, 2011, 18:51
Edit: well that was embarrassing of me :o

Well I think it is quite possible, given the track record dictatorship and never partially stable.

Corrected, forgot the ''t''. :D

Seriously though, I believe it's too possible, but compared to Libya's neighbours, it will undoubtingly be a bloodbath. According to the Arab news cabel''al-Jazeera'': at this very moment the Libyan Air Force is using their heavy equipment against anyone who stands in their way.

Airandius
February 21st, 2011, 19:34
Ah I knew about Egypt but did not know it was present in other countries as well.

Well once people taste freedom they will never let go. Either people get killed in a war for power or the president/leader takes his leave. In the case they recieve many attention in the media they usually take their leave. A war among citizens will result in a war against nations. They don't want that.

dotted
February 21st, 2011, 21:43
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Duke Ragereaver
February 21st, 2011, 22:18
Viva La Revolution!

Pizu_Meaku
February 22nd, 2011, 14:13
Viva La Revolution!
Very much indeed. I hope they overthrown every corrupt goverment in the middle east. I also hope they will be able to establish a non-corrupt democracy and get whealtier as a country and a simple farmer or shoe maker what ever.. I just hope it will improve for them.

Airandius
February 22nd, 2011, 15:38
Very much indeed. I hope they overthrown every corrupt goverment in the middle east. I also hope they will be able to establish a non-corrupt democracy and get whealtier as a country and a simple farmer or shoe maker what ever.. I just hope it will improve for them.

HAHA oh you are so funny sir. Non-corrupt democracy? HA yes very good joke indeed.

Democracy in most cases is better than dictatorship but it's still very much corrupt. At the same time it's still a bad system because parties get popular by lying, deceiving and petty media advertising. (Oh look at me hugging this baby. Vote me.)
In my country (Netherland) there are a lot of parties, they all promise hundreds of good things. At the end of their 4 year (usually shorter) leadership they have done pretty much the opposite. It does not help that half of the people that vote are ignorant either. But that's everywhere. Most notably in America due to it's size.

Duke Ragereaver
February 22nd, 2011, 15:52
HAHA oh you are so funny sir. Non-corrupt democracy? HA yes very good joke indeed.

Democracy in most cases is better than dictatorship but it's still very much corrupt. At the same time it's still a bad system because parties get popular by lying, deceiving and petty media advertising. (Oh look at me hugging this baby. Vote me.)
In my country (Netherland) there are a lot of parties, they all promise hundreds of good things. At the end of their 4 year (usually shorter) leadership they have done pretty much the opposite. It does not help that half of the people that vote are ignorant either. But that's everywhere. Most notably in America due to it's size.

"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
Churchill

Blutonium
February 22nd, 2011, 16:16
Every Democracy is a dictatorship as soon as you punch in on your daily timeclock.

People are getting angry as governments can't help them... Religions Mixing will cause even more problems.


Soon a lot more people will be destroying our dungeon as things turn bad... this is only the start

Pizu_Meaku
March 1st, 2011, 13:25
HAHA oh you are so funny sir. Non-corrupt democracy? HA yes very good joke indeed.

Democracy in most cases is better than dictatorship but it's still very much corrupt. At the same time it's still a bad system because parties get popular by lying, deceiving and petty media advertising. (Oh look at me hugging this baby. Vote me.)
In my country (Netherland) there are a lot of parties, they all promise hundreds of good things. At the end of their 4 year (usually shorter) leadership they have done pretty much the opposite. It does not help that half of the people that vote are ignorant either. But that's everywhere. Most notably in America due to it's size.

I myself am from the netherlands. Still, you can't expect everyone to meet every point in their agenda. Democracy isn't perfect but its way better then what they have right now. and if people around you reall get influenced by politicians petting a baby then there pretty naive and narrow minded.

Airandius
March 1st, 2011, 16:40
I myself am from the netherlands. Still, you can't expect everyone to meet every point in their agenda. Democracy isn't perfect but its way better then what they have right now. and if people around you reall get influenced by politicians petting a baby then there pretty naive and narrow minded.

I also said that democracy is better than dictatorship but it's still corrupt.
If you pay attenion you would see that all the politcal parties, promise something, don't do it for the time they reign and at the end they quicky boost their populairty by popping up everywhere in the media.
And you might not know, but looking at how many people vote on parties that obviously do this, I would say that around half of our country is actually naive and narrow minded. Or just stupid.

Duke Ragereaver
March 1st, 2011, 16:53
Well, regarding our Dutch politics; all we can do now and wait the results of tomorrow (to those outside the Netherlands; the provincial elections are starting).

Anyway, enough talking about the mess we have here, this thread is about the one in Libya.

Airandius
March 1st, 2011, 22:34
Well, regarding our Dutch politics; all we can do now and wait the results of tomorrow (to those outside the Netherlands; the provincial elections are starting).

Anyway, enough talking about the mess we have here, this thread is about the one in Libya.

If I start a revolution, can it be considered on topic? :P

Anybody got some riot videos of Libya? I love those.

JaCkSmItH
February 6th, 2012, 04:41
I'm getting too old and my memory is getting bad, but what's with the Tunesia again? Surely I read something about it but I can't remember what it was. Though I might be thinking of something else that I read and am confusing it with this. Or I did read about this but didn't quite catch the name and because of that...