Zyraen
July 2nd, 2011, 15:27
Some time spent mapmaking has made me believe that Training Cost is very important, since limiting the amount of Gold, or not limiting it, can make or break the challenge of a map.
So I took some tests, by training 6 unslapped imps to level 3, starting with 15000 Gold, in a 5x5 Training Room (At 150 Gold per tile). I was left with a balance of 8790.
Working it out, it comes to 410 gold for 4500 XP.
I also did another test where I took modified Hellhounds at very high Training Value (10) unit and trained up with level requirement about 10% of the normal. They leveled up from level 1 to 3 without costing a single cent. So I would reasonably conclude that the part where the monster is celebrating, they are still gaining XP.
So I'll just treat it as as 10 Gold per 100 XP at training value 2.
At training value 1, it would be 10 Gold per 50 XP.
Standard Creature Progression is
1000 3500 5000 6500 8500 10500 13000 16000 20000
Total : 84000 XP
Divide by 50 we get 1680.
So about 1680 / Training Value x Training Cost for level 10.
Most Keepers should be assumed to "break out" around level 8, which is 48000 XP
Divide by 50 we get 960
So about 960 / Training Value x Training Cost for a level 8 Creature
DK1 Haste effectively doubles the training value of the creature.
Of course, this list ignores Paydays, but I've estimated it takes about 2 paydays to get a Creature to level 8, 3 or slightly less to get to level 10.
Warlock 08 - 480 x 30 = 14,400
Warlock 10 - 840 x 30 = 25,200
Bile Demon 08 - 480 x 38 = 18,240
Bile Demon 10 - 840 x 38 = 31,920
Dragon 08 - 320 x 40 = 12,800
Dragon 10 - 560 x 40 = 33,440
Orc 05 - (16000/50) / 2 x 15 = 160 x 15 = 2,400
Orc 08 - (32000/50) / 4 x 15 + 2,400 = 160 x 15 + 2,400 = 4,800
Orc 10 - (36000/50) / 4 x 15 + 4,800 = 180 x 15 + 4,800 = 7,500
(No Haste)
Dark Mistress 08 - 320 x 24 = 11,520
Dark Mistress 10 - 560 x 24 = 13,440
Dark Mistress 06 - (24500/50) / 3 x 24 = 3,920
Dark Mistress 08 - (23500/50) / 6 x 24 + 3,920 = 78.3333 x 24 + 3,920 = 5,800
Dark Mistress 10 - (36000/50) / 6 x 24 + 5,800 = 120 x 24 + 5,800 = 8,680
What do you guys think, would this be handy for anyone ?
Probably Overkill LOL.
So I took some tests, by training 6 unslapped imps to level 3, starting with 15000 Gold, in a 5x5 Training Room (At 150 Gold per tile). I was left with a balance of 8790.
Working it out, it comes to 410 gold for 4500 XP.
I also did another test where I took modified Hellhounds at very high Training Value (10) unit and trained up with level requirement about 10% of the normal. They leveled up from level 1 to 3 without costing a single cent. So I would reasonably conclude that the part where the monster is celebrating, they are still gaining XP.
So I'll just treat it as as 10 Gold per 100 XP at training value 2.
At training value 1, it would be 10 Gold per 50 XP.
Standard Creature Progression is
1000 3500 5000 6500 8500 10500 13000 16000 20000
Total : 84000 XP
Divide by 50 we get 1680.
So about 1680 / Training Value x Training Cost for level 10.
Most Keepers should be assumed to "break out" around level 8, which is 48000 XP
Divide by 50 we get 960
So about 960 / Training Value x Training Cost for a level 8 Creature
DK1 Haste effectively doubles the training value of the creature.
Of course, this list ignores Paydays, but I've estimated it takes about 2 paydays to get a Creature to level 8, 3 or slightly less to get to level 10.
Warlock 08 - 480 x 30 = 14,400
Warlock 10 - 840 x 30 = 25,200
Bile Demon 08 - 480 x 38 = 18,240
Bile Demon 10 - 840 x 38 = 31,920
Dragon 08 - 320 x 40 = 12,800
Dragon 10 - 560 x 40 = 33,440
Orc 05 - (16000/50) / 2 x 15 = 160 x 15 = 2,400
Orc 08 - (32000/50) / 4 x 15 + 2,400 = 160 x 15 + 2,400 = 4,800
Orc 10 - (36000/50) / 4 x 15 + 4,800 = 180 x 15 + 4,800 = 7,500
(No Haste)
Dark Mistress 08 - 320 x 24 = 11,520
Dark Mistress 10 - 560 x 24 = 13,440
Dark Mistress 06 - (24500/50) / 3 x 24 = 3,920
Dark Mistress 08 - (23500/50) / 6 x 24 + 3,920 = 78.3333 x 24 + 3,920 = 5,800
Dark Mistress 10 - (36000/50) / 6 x 24 + 5,800 = 120 x 24 + 5,800 = 8,680
What do you guys think, would this be handy for anyone ?
Probably Overkill LOL.