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    Default Free experience for Warlock, Dragon and Tentacle.

    I've read in different guides that if a Warlock has his lair adjectant to a gold seam tile he will gain experience while resting in his lair. The guides also say that the same thing goes for a Dragon and lava tiles or a Tentacle and water tiles. However, I never got it to work (playing Dungeon Keeper Gold). Did they remove this feature in some patch after the prepatched version of Dungeon Keeper?

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    Default Re: Free experience for Warlock, Dragon and Tentacle.

    That only seemed to work for me when I was playing this game on a Windows 2000 system or earlier.

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    Default Re: Free experience for Warlock, Dragon and Tentacle.

    This function does work; but originally the experience gain is so small, that it's completely unnoticable. DragonsLover fixed that in his patch.

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    Default Re: Free experience for Warlock, Dragon and Tentacle.

    Yup, it works, but you must wait like <insert a big number here> paydays until the creature gains a level. Of course, I have altered this and now, it takes less time. Hmmm... perhaps I should still take a look at this.
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    Default Re: Free experience for Warlock, Dragon and Tentacle.

    Just wondering, what's the exact number of experience gained? Like, 1 point per x game turns or something?

    I suppose it was just another piece of bugged code that Bullfrog didn't get around to fix (like, say, the Word of Power spell damage bug).

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    Default Re: Free experience for Warlock, Dragon and Tentacle.

    Really? Perhaps I was too impatient when testing it out then... The funny thing is that when I was younger I played Dungeon Keeper quite alot for some period of time and now when I've "re-discovered" this game I realize that I missed out on many hidden things, details and gameplay tricks. I knew about some of the easter eggs, but not that there were so many. Dungeon Keeper has indeed more thought thrown into it than first meets the eye.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mothrayas View Post
    Just wondering, what's the exact number of experience gained? Like, 1 point per x game turns or something?
    I'm also curious about this.

    I suppose it was just another piece of bugged code that Bullfrog didn't get around to fix (like, say, the Word of Power spell damage bug).
    You mean that spell that virtually never did any damage...?

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    Default Re: Free experience for Warlock, Dragon and Tentacle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mothrayas View Post
    Just wondering, what's the exact number of experience gained? Like, 1 point per x game turns or something?

    I suppose it was just another piece of bugged code that Bullfrog didn't get around to fix (like, say, the Word of Power spell damage bug).
    Okay, after doing some tests, I realized that I did something wrong. Apparently, the experience gain value for sleeping is an unsigned 8bit integer, meaning it goes from 0 to 255. If I go higher, it works the same way as the Dexterity bug, meaning that, if I write 256, it's equal to 0, 257 = 1, 258 = 2 and so on... And I wrote 500 (oops)!

    The experience gain value for sleeping is the "percentage" of experience gained per game turn before reaching the next level. By default, here are the "percentage" values (note that it's not 100 based, but 255 based):

    By default:
    = 3 (or 1,18%) near lava
    = 1 (or 0,39%) near gold
    = 2 (or 0,74%) near water

    Since it takes 1000 experience points to reach level 2 and it increases of 3/255 for each game turn, this means that it takes 85000 game turns ((255*1000)/3) until the increases of level if he sleeps non-stop (never wakes up whatsoever) next to lava which never happens since he wakes up constantly after some times and goes for food and pay, meaning it even requires more time (almost the double). I let you imagine how much game turns it is required to get to level 10)!
    For the , it's 255000 game turns, and for the , it's 127500 game turns, always just for reaching level 2.

    You can see that's it totally insane! Here, I'm gonna increase these values a lot so that it takes waaay less time than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonsLover View Post
    Okay, after doing some tests, I realized that I did something wrong. Apparently, the experience gain value for sleeping is an unsigned 8bit integer, meaning it goes from 0 to 255. If I go higher, it works the same way as the Dexterity bug, meaning that, if I write 256, it's equal to 0, 257 = 1, 258 = 2 and so on... And I wrote 500 (oops)!

    The experience gain value for sleeping is the "percentage" of experience gained per game turn before reaching the next level. By default, here are the "percentage" values (note that it's not 100 based, but 255 based):

    By default:
    = 3 (or 1,18%) near lava
    = 1 (or 0,39%) near gold
    = 2 (or 0,74%) near water

    Since it takes 1000 experience points to reach level 2 and it increases of 3/255 for each game turn, this means that it takes 85000 game turns ((255*1000)/3) until the increases of level if he sleeps non-stop (never wakes up whatsoever) next to lava which never happens since he wakes up constantly after some times and goes for food and pay, meaning it even requires more time (almost the double). I let you imagine how much game turns it is required to get to level 10)!
    For the , it's 255000 game turns, and for the , it's 127500 game turns, always just for reaching level 2.

    You can see that's it totally insane! Here, I'm gonna increase these values a lot so that it takes waaay less time than that.
    I think I read about the extra points for placing the lairs next to various things in the Original Dungeon Keeper Manual. I always tried it but never saw any gain, now I know why lol.

    Also, just out of curiosity

    Did "The dreadful demise of Derek the dauntless" book come in the overseas version of the game?

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    Default Re: Free experience for Warlock, Dragon and Tentacle.

    Could this be added into WotO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Onatu View Post
    Could this be added into WotO?
    What is "Woto"?

    Either way, this is an inappropriate thread for that question to be asked.
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