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    Default Tyrano Demon

    Name: Tyrano Demon

    Stats:

    Health: 1500
    Attack: 120
    Armour: 200
    Accuracy: 100
    Agility: 100
    Speed: 40
    Luck: 200
    Recovery Rate: 100
    Intelligence: 1
    Construction: 10
    Training Rate: 100
    Training Cost: 200
    Wage: 279
    Gender: Boy

    Skills: Level 1: Melee And Fire Breath
    Level 2: Meteor
    Level 4: Teleport
    Level 5: Invisible
    Level 8: Word Of Power
    Level 10: Health

    Information: He is invunerable to the lava. Isnt speed. He dont research. But yes manafacture.

    Behavior in Dungeon: He loves fight, when is in the level 10 of training he adventure and quest heros or enemys or manafacture.

    Battle Style: Blocker

    Jobs: Training, Manafacture

    Obtainable By: Are a Creature

    Hates: Knight

    Loves: Horny

    Lair: Look like a cave.

    Appearance: Look like a Mini T-Rex, is red, have two horns in the head, and have fire on all the body.

    How Introduced: Introduced in the game when the keeper have a 9x9 training room and workshop

    Attracted by: A big Training Room and big workshop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerd View Post
    Stats:

    Health: 1500
    Attack: 120
    Armour: 200
    Accuracy: 100
    Agility: 100
    Speed: 40
    Luck: 200
    Recovery Rate: 100
    Intelligence: 1
    Construction: 10
    Training Rate: 100
    Training Cost: 200
    Wage: 279
    Gender: Boy
    Numbers, not good. What am I supposed to imagine with '120 attack'? Is it little? Is it a lot? Be more descriptive with the stats, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerd View Post
    Skills: Level 1: Melee And Fire Breath
    Level 2: Meteor
    Level 4: Teleport
    Level 5: Invisible
    Level 8: Word Of Power
    Level 10: Health
    Kay, so it's exactly a dragon, just with some completely random spells taped on. Who needs creativity, just rip off of something that exists already, including in this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerd View Post
    Information: He is invunerable to the lava. Isnt speed. He dont research. But yes manafacture.
    That is a lot of information you have there. Very descriptive about the creature you're presenting here. Er, except not at all.

    And what does 'isnt speed' mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerd View Post
    Behavior in Dungeon: He loves fight, when is in the level 10 of training he adventure and quest heros or enemys or manafacture.

    Battle Style: Blocker

    Jobs: Training, Manafacture
    Y'know, if it's going to be such a ripoff creature, I'd at least expect it to have something moderately unique it does. Well, other than the fact it manafactures (sic).

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerd View Post
    Obtainable By: Are a Creature
    How do I used verb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerd View Post
    Hates: Knight
    Sorry, Horny already took that position.

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    Loves: Horny
    *gasp*

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerd View Post
    Lair: Look like a cave.
    Once again, terribly descriptive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerd View Post
    Appearance: Look like a Mini T-Rex, is red, have two horns in the head, and have fire on all the body.
    Artwork needed kthx

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerd View Post
    How Introduced: Introduced in the game when the keeper have a 9x9 training room and workshop

    Attracted by: A big Training Room and big workshop.
    Ridiculous room requirements. I'm not going to build 81 tiles of two rooms just for one creature.



    Conclusion: Needs more description, and otherwise just looks like an uncreative ripoff of the Dragon of DK1 (which, mind you, EXISTS HERE AS WELL), just with some random spells tacked on.

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    Default Re: Tyrano Demon

    why are you attacking innocent people? is it an xbox achievement or something? is this how you try to make friends? ty for your useless post which could of easily been cut down into 1 small sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzi View Post
    why are you attacking innocent people? is it an xbox achievement or something? is this how you try to make friends? ty for your useless post which could of easily been cut down into 1 small sentence.
    Because, mildly put, this suggestion is not good and lacks a lot of vital stuff, and posting this in detail is still better than replying two words "You suck".

    Also, if you don't have anything fruitful to say about the topic, then don't say anything.

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    KK descending into a bitch fight, oh how the mighty keepers have fallen!

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    Lately people have been extra aggro on these suggestion pages. Let's ignore personal attacks and focus on improving creatures rather than tear them down. I know it takes /effort/ to do that but honestly just saying something is /bad/ isn't that helpful in the grand scheme of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james.heinichen View Post
    Lately people have been extra aggro on these suggestion pages. Let's ignore personal attacks and focus on improving creatures rather than tear them down. I know it takes /effort/ to do that but honestly just saying something is /bad/ isn't that helpful in the grand scheme of things.
    Well Mothrayas did point out what was wrong with it, which is neccessary if you want to improve it. Dizzi was the one that started the actual personal remarks and said he should bring it down into a single sentence... which wouldn't say much other than "It's bad" unless it was a really bad run-on sentence.
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    by appearance sounds like another dragon spawn remodel (like the salamander) and morthyas is right; it doesn't seem creative at all

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    Going by DK1 stats, those stats are simply Overpowered.
    In DK1, absolutely nothing has Armour 200 or Luck 200 (What does that even mean? a 200% chance of scoring a double damage?).
    The highest Luck in DK1, AFAIK, is the Horned Reaper standing at a mere 30.
    Health 1500 exceeds everything except Horny and Avatar

    Its attainable super early (training room 9 workshop 9) and has both Flame Breath and Melee (with an ATK / STR of 120, which again is only less than the Horned Reaper which is 150).

    It has more skills and more powers than the Horned Reaper.
    If it wants to fight, there's no reason why it should be attracted by the Workshop anyway.

    Absolutely a horribly Over Powered idea for a Keeper Creature.

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    That said, it might be fun to have it as a Hero/Neutral wandering around.
    With those Stats and that T-Rex appearance, some Skill Tweaks (bringing Heal to the front) and "ranging" around a central area - say a valley or a huge lava lake - it could give the impression of trying to wage a Dungeon Fight while being in a Dinosaur Valley in Hell.

    Just my 2 cents.

    PS : if ever copyright issues affect KeeperFX, or even WFTO, it might just be worthwhile to have this baby take over the Reaper's role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyraen View Post
    Going by DK1 stats, those stats are simply Overpowered.
    In DK1, absolutely nothing has Armour 200 or Luck 200 (What does that even mean? a 200% chance of scoring a double damage?). The highest Luck in DK1, AFAIK, is the Horned Reaper standing at a mere 40.

    Health 1500 exceeds everything except Horny 2000 and Avatar 6000.

    Its attainable super early (training room 9 workshop 9) and has both Flame Breath and Melee (with an ATK / STR of 120, which again is only less than the Horned Reaper which is 150).

    It has more skills and more powers than the Horned Reaper.
    If it wants to fight, there's no reason why it should be attracted by the Workshop anyway.

    Absolutely a horribly Over Powered idea for a Keeper Creature.
    This is exactly why we don't use numbers. Lol, silly Zyraen, those stats look like they're made for DK2. With that in mind... he actually looks kinda weak...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyraen View Post
    PS : if ever copyright issues affect KeeperFX, or even WFTO, it might just be worthwhile to have this baby take over the Reaper's role.
    I think if that were to happen, WftO would just cease to exist, period. Well I think that, or we would move into the OpenDungeons project. I hope they don't mind us or the WftO developers as internet room mates or anything.
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